SHANANN would stay gone, but he was never concerned that something happened to her. She has a pretty face. I can't imagine after bankruptcy etc. LEONARDs current wife, dabbled in Thrive, which was the same employment as SHANANN WATTS. I dont have anything bad to say about her non-scam job at a call center in a childrens hospital. r22, I saw some special on tv about the murders, it mentioned medical bills for her. From her sketchy past and grifting ways, to the possible Munchausen Syndrome or Factitious Disorder, to the MLM scheme she was knee-deep in, to her dozens of vapid Facebook livestreams and Instagram posts now eternally available for public consumption and dissection, to her manipulation of "friends" and family, it's evident she was at best a woman desperate to appear more successful than she was ever capable of being, and at worst, a straight up con woman. Anybody else feel this way? R136. She got along well with people. I really didnt. (Colorado Bureau of Investigation) And I still want to know more about the drugs in bins in their basement. I sure hope he does. They BOTH needed surgeries at the same time; they BOTH had life-threatening allergies; they BOTH were rushed to the hospital on the same night for the same thing; they BOTH needed the same breathing treatments. Shanann Watts, 34, posted the photo of the shrouded doll on August 9, days before police say she and her daughtersCeleste, three, and Bella, four, were killed in their Frederick, Colorado home, on the northern outskirts of Denver. At home they would be in different rooms and she was always too busy for what LEONARD had going on. Dont forget Primrose Academy the girls $500 a week pre-school. R58 even sounds offended that they don't meet his standards for child attractiveness. It was Bumfuck, NC, but still worth $400k. Jennifer Hart used her adopted children as props in her social media posts. Sandra Rzucek wrote that in her 2018 letter to the DA. Shan'ann's former boss and lover, Hisham. I also think those same things motivate him to not be completely truthful about his true motives, etc. Chris kept going on and on about how attracted he was to her, even though the detectives had moved on and started questioning him about Shannan. Would you know my name if I saw you in Heaven? There's no such suggestion of that scenario in the discovery. Only they know, but I bet that is the case. Its pretty simple. Her story is that of the majority of bisexual men living a lie. Even with a high-interest, low-limit card available to bankrupt consumers, they wouldnt be able to afford the airfares to NC for their summer trip! Hello. Someone in one of the threads said they drove through the area and it's pretty barren and underdeveloped. Google 'Bella and Celeste Watts People.com' under Google images. Janny Free please dont call them little monsters they died but the hand of their father, and Bella was such a sweet little girl, and CeCe was younger she was still in toddler stageShe was gonna grow out of itNo matter what happened between these adults they didnt deserve to die, and neither did Shanann RIP Shanann and your 3 Angels Bella Celeste Nico , Janny didnt call them little monsters she was repeating what Shanann called them in one of her videos . Think hes still lying about some details? I find it very odd that he did not have girlfriends in high school and prior to meeting Shanann and that we never hear from any of them. The other thing that made me think he dated her because her nickname implies she has hanann was bitchy and competitive and condescending. The MIL was a cunt to her, too, but I think its because MIL recognized a fellow manipulator. Considering how Shanann gained the confidence of others and used them, I have no doubt she wouldve alienated the girls against Chris. Sister of Private. On Feb. 18, over a span of five hours, Watts shared with investigators more disturbing details in how he killed his wife, Shanann, and their two daughters in August 2018. He pleaded guilty that November to all three slayings. I think he snapped. How does he go from doing their hair every morning and making sure they had baths & snacks everyday (and reading them bedtime stories, etc.) One of the detectives admonished him, "Yes, but we I am asking you about Shannan now". I know an ex wife who was getting very greedy and sued for more and lost because her ex could show he had no income by getting his employer to pay him in cash and lived on credit cards for a while. I followed the Hart murders, too. There is never a good enough reason to do what he did. What a fucking nightmare! Fact: Court documents listed Shanann as a co-owner of Dirty South. I dont know what kind of insurance they had, but wow. Those girls probably ate it all the time. She was our pride and joy, a true gift from God. Another one is when people go around telling you: Im OCD Im a straight shooter Im a scatterbrain Im not here for drama. Also thought they were killed before Shanann got home and so never knew mommy was dead. Considering the p.o.s. Every real life character in this story is interesting, especially the victim. This baby in my belly deserves his full love, she texted her friend, who had advised her to go through Chris phone for signs of infidelity. I feel like I need to add something special to my name too. murdered both kids, killing the one though she fought him, I think it's safe to say he wasn't interested in being a parent AT ALL. Financially she had left him no way out. By clicking Accept All Cookies, you agree to the storing of cookies on your device to enhance site navigation, analyze site usage, and assist in our marketing efforts. She left home again to attend a quick work trip on Aug. 10, returning home just before 2 a.m. on Aug. 13. I cant figure out how they got so deeply in debt AGAIN after the first bankruptcy. And it was mostly consumer debt, no? I also love when people say she got a huge settlement from her first husband in their divorce. So I put her parents in the same category as all of the other people and businesses she has conned. That can occur when a nerd suddenly becomes hot or he's just a crazy. I also think she used her physical hardships once again to play on his sympathies, sort of like a book of struggles, but he had already turned a deaf ear. With Shanann (disclaimer: no, of course she didnt deserve to die!) [quote]Of course we can say nice things about her, too. "Red-Handed" has a pretty good podcast about the case. I can't believe this thread got GRAY-LINED! Chris and Shanann met in 2010 in their home state of North Carolina and got married on Nov. 3, 2012. John Forbes officiating. Specially after they are both dead! He had already been contacted by NBC News. Shananns behavior is not odd at all, in fact, its pretty much how people act when they no longer want to be with you. And did she legally change it? Dont get me started on this grifty broad. LEONARD said that he was very interested in marriage counseling and they went to a couple sessions, but it was virtually impossible to engage SHANANN in conversation. It is so fucking disturbing. He said they hadn't spoken since they split and he didn't even know her current name. Until her murder, her biggest problem in life was the spelling of her name. And its interesting to see how people defend her nauseating videos (it was for her JOB!) and bitchiness to her husband and children (I boss my husband. He admitted to that. Gone is HottieWattie and the FattieWattie (pronounce it like Whattie and it rhymes) is back in his rightful place, the guy went crazy being hot, fugly is where he belongs. Stealing the kids identities? ^ to be fair, Trent Bolte has them all beat in the crazy department. That whole stunt with the MIL was something my mother would have done. R230, Guuurrrl, this is the only place we're allowed to talk about her Munchausen's and Munchausen's by Proxy. And she had some scam going in CO. My guess is she was using the kids SS# to get clean lines of credit. She then went to work in Charlotte, NC for a middle eastern guy that owned a tire and wheel business called Dirty South. OK, but we're talking about SHAN'ANN now. Bella, Celeste and Shanann Watts (credit CBS) "Our daughter watched her husband kill her," Sandy . R198, I think Chris was better with money, for sure. She tore through life, grabbing grabbing grabbing, and demanding. And nursing school, befriending nurses and working in a childrens hospital? The fact that the physician performing her autopsy found "no evidence of disease". Also a little insight into her horrendous personality from someone who knew her way back when. Why? R181: The friend is Chris Watts ex-girlfriend. She was not confrontational and more withdrew. I wonder if she might have used that Thrive crap on the kids. The Mead, CO explosion occured a year before the Watts murders. Why did her kids always have parallel medical problems? R166: Do you have evidence of this scamming and embezzlement? Chris should be let out of prison and given the chance to be hot again. Shanann was running another scam, Im positive. LEONARD reported that he and SHANANN took out life insurance policies when they were married around 2004/2005 through USAA. So basically being a condescending bitch. A new documentary on the Watts family murders shines a spotlight on the deteriorating relationship between Colorado family annihilator Chris Watts and his wife, Shanann. I had no idea it was that much! He was sentenced to five life sentences without the possibility of parole, three to be served consecutively. Grieving husband and father. There were rumors that they were defrauding employees using payroll/benefit scam. Maybe thats how she could afford to get manicures while their finances were in the shitter. If so, nice of him not to say so. I think if Shan'ann had lived she would have ended up being another Dee Dee Blanchard. Shanann to Shan'ann. patches and has fibromyalgia and once walked past a man who was later discovered to wear women's underwear. I spoke with LEONARD KING ( ) by phone on 08/15/2018 at 1427 hours. He did not receive a warm welcome when he reunited with them in NC. He just doesnt. And he knew that in her vindictiveness she would use the children as pawns and weapons. According to Shannans ex, she had many of the same traits as Chris! I feel its a form of abuse to film and live broadcast your family at all times. I haven't seen a single post on DL or anywhere else demanding that Chris "should go free" (tasteless DL bitcherous joking aside) for any reason whatsoever. They withdraw and distance themselves. The documentary pieced together the events . When they have to explain themselves preemptively or repeatedly, watch out. Why was their marriage not going well? The 34-year-old mother regularly posted updates on social media about her life in Frederick, Colorado, documenting her rise in the health and wellness world and gushing . jim martin death couples massage class san diego beaver falls football shanann watts first marriage. I have thought she cheated all along as well. In response to comments on the post, Shanann said that it was a '3 foot doll' that had been wrapped in 'their twister tarp thing'. Fact: Hisham Bedwan, co-owner and Shananns boss at Dirty South joked around with Shanann during one of her FB Live videos. I wondered why, on the initial Officer Coonrod bodycam videos, there was no furniture in the dining room. It amazes me to see photos and videos of Bella and CeeCee and the love they had for one another is plain to see. The fact that he didn't anticipate her friends blowing up her phone shows how dumb he is. Its endlessly fascinating. I wrote that R420 post on the last thread, out of ballistic anger at how this confidence woman (conwoman) is getting canonized on other forums. He later admitted to killing their daughters, four-year-old Bella and three-year-old Celeste, by smothering them with a blanket over their heads. An accomplice would have driven her car out to the site, they would have detonated the explosion and voila. Do there was financial issues going on. a loan to build this house? More than a half year before their affair began. Can you imagine her as a single parent? ". Celeste was born July 17, 2015 in Colorado. Nichol Kessinger and Chris Watts started speaking at work in June 2018, and by July 2018, the pair had started a romantic relationship. Anyone have a guess as to why Chris was so brutal with his daughters? R111, no-fault; yes, regarding reasons for separation and division of assets. Not for one second did I think that the big confession Watts gave cops would be so brutal and nasty. Keith Griffith For Dailymail.com As an adult, your identity basics, like first name, are already established. Why cant people see this? Her husband should have left her & divorced her, or never married her in the first place. When their marriage was not going so well, SHANANN poured herself into work, worked a lot and stopped coming home at night. My partner's half sister is like this. Interesting he says when things were not going well in their relationship, thats when she poured herself into work, out late, not coming home at all etc. In reality they were all already dead. Like Bunnika. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts, https://www.forbisanddick.com/obituaries/Arie-King/#!/Obituary. Her crazy MIL spread stories about Shannaaaannna. "When Shanann Watts blew out the candles on her birthday cake on January 10, 2018, with her two young daughters by her side, she had no idea it would be her last birthday or that all three of them would be dead in the coming year. The discovery documents released by the Weld County District Attorney's office last week related to the murder investigation include an anecdote And Jim Id love to know more. $150,000 equity would have been swallowed up by realtor fees leaving the two of them not much. In lieu of flowers memorial donations can be made in memory honoring Shanann to the Lupus Foundation of America at 2121 K Street NW, Suite 200 Washington, DC 20037-1830.or to the Frederick Colorado Police Dept.- Missing Persons Division at PO Box 435 Frederick, CO 80530 or to the St.Judes Childrens Hospital at 501 St. Jude Place, Memphis, TN 38105, Online condolences can be made to www.bolesfuneralhome.com. But THEN, I saw her have a combination Lularoe clothing party and Pro-Bar taste testing party. Or was he completely oblivious and just filled with utter rage at Shannan and her doppelgnger kids dissing him? KILLER dad Chris Watts revealed grisly details of his pregnant wife's murder in a bombshell prison letter, according to reports. What do you mean needed Chris to pay the bills- they both needed each other to pay the bills. Banks have a duty to keep you from insolvency when you buy a house. I should have been tipped off when I saw how close the Watts' house was to Nosy Nate's; they could have passed a cup of sugar without leaving their kitchens. Makes me want to slap those agents silly. She expected to quietly . On Thursday, authorities found three bodies: Shanann was buried in a shallow grave about 40 miles east of their home at a work site belonging to her husband's former employer (which fired him. R30, were you shilling that onesie on the old Topix forum? She was a grifter with her buddy Hashem. LEONARD actually did not know SHANANNs last name until a few days ago. He buried them at his place of work and left a bedsheet in the field. Shanann's husband, Chris Watts, 33, can be heard singing in the background." . The underlying issues can be difficult to fully define, and for some, may take several years/ repeat doctor visits. No wonder Chris was amazed with NK. Its a whole subculture, heavy on thuggish bravado and bitches n hoes, etc. Words have devastating consequences. Interview with Leonard King, Shan'ann Watts' Ex-Husband [47th Tranche], TRUE CRIME ROCKET SCIENCE Visit the post for more. I thought that we at DL had figured out what likely happened months ago (had pretty good, comprehensive theories about that night that made sense): he covered the girls faces while they were asleep in their beds (possibly even after sedating them) so they quickly died practically in their sleep and never knew that it was daddy who did it. He knows his wife is in CONSTANT contact with her friends. The following day, Chris spoke with local media outlets from . On August 13, 2018, Colorado father Chris Watts murdered his pregnant wife, Shanann Watts, and their two daughters, 4-year-old Bella and 3-year-old Celeste. But. She shared every fucking thing on social media. [quote] Of course what Chris Watts did in murdering his family and especially his children was horrendously wrong. A 12 yo girl took it for one day and felt amazing! You seem to like the psychopath label. Chris also said he couldnt talk to her, she wouldnt listen. I bet those bitches have some stories to tell. ^^ he would excuse her cunty behavior by saying she was having a bad day but it happened all the time. Thank you so much, Your email address will not be published. It has helped me to put my thoughts in perspective because nothing else has. I asked about SHANANNs skills in conflict resolution. That said, my pity and heartbreak goes out to those kids and Nico. Facebook & its ilk are full of fraus like her -- none of them deserve to die but all of them are annoying as hell. The digital quality of the photo makes it look dark. She was a compelling personality. 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